Gay Marriage, Redux
I know, I know, I usually try to stay away from these kinds of issues these days and instead focus my blog on historical issues- I swear I'll get back to my American History series in a bit. I do, however, want to re-visit some of the issues raised by my last post on gay marriage.
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Firstly, I want to reiterate my call to civility and decency in discourse. This is important in all areas of life, really. Whatever your opinions- and whatever your opinions of other peoples' opinions- we have a duty, an obligation, to be kind, to be charitable, to be polite, to be nice. Societies which purport to be based upon the will of the people (that is, "democracies" and "republics") and the open debate of ideas require civility. A shouting match doesn't get anyone anywhere, and it usually makes the situation worse. That isn't to say that you can't disagree- even strongly- with someone, that you can't attack their ideas, their logic, but it does mean that, as I've said before, you should be able to sit down to a cup of tea afterwards and not, well, kill each other.
In a related matter, this blog, though a product of a society which believes in free and open discourse (at least in theory), is not a public forum. I, personally, do not necessarily subscribe to those views and, as such, I reserve the right to refrain from publishing any comment which I feel does not constructively contribute to the overall discourse of the blog itself. I will, sometimes, let comments with an obviously malicious intent stand, but usually only if they serve to make a point of mine. On the other hand, a polite, reasonable comment is something I will almost invariably publish, even if it is in sharp disagreement with something I've said.
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I appreciate the Catholic Church's position on the issue of gay marriage, but the insistence of some to provide me with explanations of and links to its teachings leads me to think that some people missed the point of my last post. I am perfectly aware of the Church's teachings on this and many things, and so it should not be assumed that merely pointing them out to me will change my mind.
In fact, an attempt to "change my mind" on this subject would be a bit ill-founded, since, as I noted numerous times, I have not come down on one side of the issue or the other; in fact the only position re: gay marriage that I have actually enumerated is the total removal of the Federal government from the institution of marriage- heterosexual or homosexual- as a means of making the issue writ large irrelevant, so quoting the Church's position at me is little more than chasing a paper tiger.
It is, however, worth noting that the principle difficulty I have posited for opponents of gay marriage (and I think I may not have made this clear enough in my last post, which is part of the reason I am posting again), is that the United States enjoys a secular government, whose laws are not supposed to enshrine a particular religion's views.
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It is very tempting to want to legislate morality. Gay marriage might contravene the laws of Nature, God and the Church, but the point I'm trying to make here is that it is not the job of the United States government to enforce those kinds of laws.
History is littered with examples of governments that attempted to legislate morality; it is also littered with the disastrous consequences of these attempts. These kinds of governments are usually called theocracies and, if you would like to see what they're like, there are plenty in the Middle East right now. They are not vibrant societies, they are places of oppression and darkness. Incidentally, they are not societies free of sin, either.
These kinds of things usually remind me of the movie Serenity (okay, okay, I know, it's not the most scholarly of examples). The main Alliance in the setting is trying to create a society without sin; eventually, the main character says, "Let me show you a world without sin," and we see a world full of the dead. The point here is that legislating morality, trying to eradicate sin by force, by using the government, is impossible.
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Let me again visit my example of Prohibition. This was an attempt by Protestants (some groups, not all, of course) to get rid of alcohol and make society more "godly". As everyone should be aware, the attempt was an appalling failure which resulted in sky-rocketing crime rates and the amendment was eventually repealed. Although these aren't precisely parallel examples, the point is that a group of people attempted to impose their personal, religious beliefs by utilizing the secular state to enforce this will.
We can all agree that Prohibition was, aside from being simply a bad idea, an inappropriate use of the government and its power. The question, then, that I would pose, is how do you get around this argument re: gay marriage. If we accept that the government should not be used to impose the religious views of some members of society on the rest, how is this answerable by Catholics? Is there an answer, other than the one that I've posed (namely, the make the issue irrelevant by removing the government from the institution entirely)?
I freely admit that I could be wrong here, and so I'm not asking these questions rhetorically. But, for the sake of logical consistency, it must be asked: If we oppose gay marriage on religious grounds, does it not logically follow that we should begin enacting other laws of the Church? Should we forbid divorce, and make adultery criminal? These things threaten the "sanctity of marriage", do they not? Should they not be similarly opposed? And if they are merely matters for personal choice, how is gay marriage not the same as them?
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As I've said, my readers shouldn't read what they think is my personal position into this post. They should, however, ponder, consider, think, over what I've said. Can Catholicism be completely reconciled with a secular government? Should it be? And so on. And thank you, in advance, to those readers who provide polite, reasonable and thoughtful responses to my posts.
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Our Lady of the Snows, pray for us.








